From Clinical Nutritionist to “I Talk to Energy”

Nat didn’t grow up waving sage around or talking about past lives.

In fact, she used to roll her eyes at horoscopes.

She spent years working in the science world — as a clinical nutritionist, helping women rebuild their relationships with food and body.

No crystals. No incense. Just research, data, and a white lab coat.

Until one day, something strange started happening.

She felt pulled toward something she couldn’t rationalize.

A word kept popping up online — “Reiki.”

Except she read it as “Ry-kai.”

Curiosity won. She booked a weekend course, thinking it’d just be a fun little experiment.

What happened next cracked her entire worldview open.

During her very first Reiki session, she started seeing things — energy fields, light, colours, the invisible blueprint behind human emotion.

It wasn’t imagination. It was real.

And client after client confirmed it.

That weekend changed everything.

She went from science to shaman, mind to soul, logic to frequency — and somehow managed to weave it all together into something deeply human.

What a Shaman Actually Does (Without the Woo-Woo Filter)

When I asked Nat what it means to be a shaman, her answer was perfect:

“I get to do weird shit. I see energy. I time-hop. I talk to plants. I connect with people’s souls and help them remember who they really are.”

It’s not something she learned — it’s something she remembered.

But what I love most about Nat is that she brings ethics, integrity, and a fierce respect for autonomy into a field that often gets a bad rap.

She refuses to tell clients what to do.

She doesn’t predict the future.

She doesn’t pull the wool over anyone’s eyes.

Instead, she meets people where they are — blending science, spirit, psychology, and truth in a way that just lands.

As she said:

“My job isn’t to take your power. It’s to remind you that you’ve always had it.”

The Science of Spirit (and Why It’s Not All Woo)

Here’s the part that made me love this conversation even more:

Nat isn’t trying to prove she’s “spiritual enough.”

She’s just real.

She loves science. She loves God. She listens to Kendrick Lamar while she smudges her clients.

She’s the definition of “both/and.”

Both hip hop and healing.

Both grounded and cosmic.

Both clinical and connected.

It’s this blend — the divine and the down-to-earth — that makes her work magnetic.

The Ethics of Energy Work (and Why So Much of It Is BS)

We also went deep on the shadow side of spirituality — the bullshit that turns people off.

Nat shared stories about “healers” charging thousands to “remove vaccine energy” or “channel out demons,” and she doesn’t hold back calling it out.

Because when people come to a healer, they’re vulnerable — and that’s sacred.

Her take?

You can’t bypass trauma with crystals or “light codes.”

You can’t talk your way out of your nervous system.

And you sure as hell shouldn’t hand your power to anyone — no matter how “enlightened” they seem.

Spirituality, But Make It Human

What I adore most about Nat is that she’s spiritual without being sanctimonious.

She’ll talk to you about God one minute and make you laugh the next.

She believes prayer can happen in a car singing along to Beyoncé.

That healing can look like crying in your kitchen or dancing to Snoop Dogg.

And that spirituality doesn’t require white linen or perfect posture — just honesty.

As she said,

“Anything that lights up your spirit is spiritual.”

My Biggest Takeaway

This conversation reminded me of something simple but profound:

Our relationship with the divine mirrors our relationship with ourselves.

If you don’t trust yourself, you won’t trust your intuition.

If you can’t love yourself, it’s hard to love others (or believe a loving universe has your back).

And that’s what Nat helps people do — come home to themselves so they can connect with something bigger.

Listen to the Full Episode

If you’ve ever felt “too logical to be spiritual” or “too grounded to believe in energy,” this episode will blow your mind in the best way.

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Because maybe it’s time we all got a little more woo… without losing our common sense.

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